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Postby James_Armstrong » 09 Dec 2019 22:14

Title: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986)
IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090683/
Country: USA
Region: 0
Releasing Studio: EarthStation1.com / MediaOutlet.com
Case Type: Jewel Case
Aspect Ratio: 1.33:1
Anamorphic?: No
PAL or NTSC?: NTSC
Soundtracks: English Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo
Subtitles: None
Cuts: None - Contains the home video version (95:27)
Commentaries: None
Extras: None
Notes: Only available from https://www.earthstation1.com and https://www.mediaoutlet.com.
Chapter marks are every three minutes.
The transfer is analog with horizontal tape lines and is slightly windowboxed.
Easter Eggs: None
Amazon ASIN (UK, French, German, USA releases only): None
Source: I own this DVD.
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD

Postby Brent_Reid » 14 Dec 2019 15:59

Surely if it's "sourced from the 1991 Image Entertainment laserdisc" then it's a bootleg?
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 15 Dec 2019 06:57

Is there anywhere on the packaging that states it was licensed from Image or MGM?
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD

Postby James_Armstrong » 15 Dec 2019 21:09

Brent_Reid wrote:Surely if it's "sourced from the 1991 Image Entertainment laserdisc" then it's a bootleg?

It's actually an analog transfer with analog lines through it.
James-Masaki_Ryan wrote:Is there anywhere on the packaging that states it was licensed from Image or MGM?

According to MediaOutlet.com's website, their "web store space is provided by Vindohosting.com located in the Seychelles, and as such all business conducted by MediaOutlet.com takes place within the legal jurisdiction of the Seychelles." So it's probably a bootleg. Sorry I suggested this.
Speaking of which, the only DVD by them on this site that isn't a bootleg is their DVD of the 1955 Producers' Showcase telecast of "Peter Pan," as I have never seen that specific transfer (which includes some sponsor commercials and the awarding of the Emmy) on any other DVD. The Peter Pan 1960 TV special, however, appears to be a bootleg of the GoodTimes transfer, albeit without the opening and closing bumpers and no "Copyright (C) 1989 NBC, Inc." bumper.
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD FAO J

Postby Brent_Reid » 16 Dec 2019 02:53

No worries, James: it's good that stuff like this gets highlighted once in a while. Nonetheless, the Peter Pan show is also a boot, as is everything on their sites. For instance, all DVDs are region 0, NTSC and no copyright or licensing indicators anywhere. That includes obviously copyrighted material with existing major distributors, like their Beatles releases.
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD FAO J

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 16 Dec 2019 03:34

Copyright may have expired on Peter Pan.
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD FAO J

Postby Brent_Reid » 16 Dec 2019 07:26

Absolutely not. Apart from the original story rights, there are various other underlying copyrights, such as for the songs and music. The TV versions on that website are owned by Universal Studios. You'll find links to all this if you start looking here.
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD FAO J

Postby James_Armstrong » 16 Dec 2019 17:44

Brent_Reid wrote:Absolutely not. Apart from the original story rights, there are various other underlying copyrights, such as for the songs and music. The TV versions on that website are owned by Universal Studios. You'll find links to all this if you start looking here.

I thought kinescopes weren't copyrighted but what was recorded on them were. I could be wrong, though.
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD FAO J

Postby Brent_Reid » 17 Dec 2019 01:08

The recording or carrier medium makes no difference whatsoever. Copyrighted material is copyrighted material.
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD FAO J

Postby James_Armstrong » 17 Dec 2019 01:59

Brent_Reid wrote:The recording or carrier medium makes no difference whatsoever. Copyrighted material is copyrighted material.

That clears it up then.
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD FAO J

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 17 Dec 2019 22:14

Thanks for the info. Removing the Peter Pan entry and moving this to Reference
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD FAO J

Postby Brent_Reid » 17 Dec 2019 22:48

You're welcome. There's another one here.
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD FAO J

Postby James-Masaki_Ryan » 18 Dec 2019 03:28

That’s the one I removed... and you had to dig it up... :lol:
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Re: Babes in Toyland (TV) (1986) EarthStation1.com DVD FAO J

Postby Brent_Reid » 18 Dec 2019 07:14

Well... I could smell it! Anyhoo, in its current form it's a pretty useless listing and from the description looks to be comprised wholly of copyrighted material. Lastly, no release of that title appears on either website.
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